In this episode, I sit down with my friend and business partner, Tanner Dean, for a real and honest conversation about leadership — not as a title, but as a posture.

We talk about walking alongside others, sacrificing personal comfort for the good of the team, and learning to lead through failure, family, and faith.

Tanner shares how his view of leadership has been shaped over time, and how the best lessons are often learned in the trenches.

This one is packed with heart, perspective, and quiet strength.