In this episode of 2004: A Film Odyssey, Mirandia and Ben suit up to swing through one of the greatest superhero sequels of all time — Spider-Man 2. From Doc Ock’s iconic villain arc to Peter Parker’s soul-crushing struggle with responsibility, we’re diving deep into the emotional (and very meme-able) heart of Sam Raimi’s web-slinging masterpiece.

We talk bad pizza delivery timing, train fights that still hold up, and why Tobey Maguire’s sad eyes broke a generation. Plus: Ben shares a personal ranking of Spider-Man actors, Mirandia relives her first Spider-crush, and we both get slightly too outraged over phone etiquette. (We know it has nothing to do with the film but…)

Whether you were Team MJ, Team “Give Peter a Break,” or just here for the J. Jonah Jameson quotes, this one’s for you.