Surfacing podcast producer, Rhys Welchman, joins Andy and Lisa in this year-end recap. Andy and Lisa talk about how the podcast is going, changes for next year. And, Rhys talks about how what he learns in the podcast influences him as a band tour manager--and what it's like to be back out on the road in a pandemic.

All three talk about hopes and wishes for the new year. Plus, Lisa has a surprise holiday song for Andy!

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