Two-time Scotties champion Chelsea Carey and Gerry Geurts of CurlingZone join Kevin to preview the 2025 Montana's Curling Trials. They begin by explaining why the event title doesn't use the "O" word, then dive into the data and consider what it will take for someone to challenge Rachel Homan. They discuss the parity of the men's draw, Gushue's last run and how much experience and recent form matter.