Animal Welfare, Captivity, and the Hidden Costs of the Exotic Pet Trade.  Dr. Phil Arena, biologist, academic, and animal welfare expert, for a deep and wide-ranging conversation on the complex moral landscape of human-animal relationships. 

With decades of experience in both fieldwork and ethical inquiry, Dr. Arena sheds light on the unseen suffering of reptiles, amphibians, and exotic animals in private collections and institutions alike. He explains how outdated “folklore husbandry”, the repetition of unscientific pet-keeping practices — continues to drive poor welfare outcomes, especially for snakes, lizards, and turtles.

This episode dives deep into:

• Why 75% of reptiles die within their first year in captivity
• How myths in the pet trade lead to inadequate enclosures and misunderstood needs
• The concept of “control deprivation” and why space and environmental complexity matter for captive animals
• How animals like skinks, pythons, and crocodiles exhibit stress, social hierarchies, and even play behaviour
• The illegal wildlife trade, now the fourth-largest black market industry globally, and its shocking reach — from king cobras to coconut crabs
• How invasive species like red-eared sliders and Burmese pythons end up dominating ecosystems due to careless trade practices
• Why laws, policy loopholes, and corruption continue to make the exotic pet trade difficult to regulate

Dr. Arena also shares personal experiences from reptile farms and wildlife markets across the world, and explains the moral dilemmas facing conservation efforts today — including the ethics of captive breeding, habitat loss, and whether individuals keeping endangered species as pets really helps or harms biodiversity.

This conversation challenges long-held assumptions, uncovers uncomfortable truths, and invites listeners to think more deeply about the consequences of keeping wild animals in controlled environments.