This week we are sharing a bit of an older episode... but it checks out. We are joined by Paul Perez, a deacon in the Michigan Conference who leads and works with JFON (Justice For Our Neighbors) a UMC-based advocacy group working to provide legal aid to undocumented immigrants and asylum seekers as well as a wide host of other services; in this episode we talk sanctuary churches, William Stringfellow, and we ask the question, just what is a deacon.