**Summary:**
In Episode #204 Ari shares the Less Doing Podcast with speaker, writer, and coach, [Shari Alexander](http://www.shari-alexander.com/). Listen as Ari and Shari discuss the power of persuasion, the importance of remaining curious at heart, and why _believing_ in someone’s values and _leveraging_ someone’s values are not the same thing.
**Time Stamped Show Notes:**
- 21:18 – Introduction of persuasiveness coach Shari Alexander
- 21:30 – What a persuasiveness coach does
- 22:50