Pennyfool and Birdbrat chat about the people who brought the straight/queer kink scene into being and the organizations they founded! Also covered: the continued split between the gay men's and straight/queer scene, the major role played by fem doms, and energy leeches. Enjoy!

People mentioned in this episode:

• Cynthia Slater
• Pat Bond,
• Patrick Califia
• Gayle Rubin
• Nancy Ava Miller
• Jim Kane
• Guy Baldwin

Organizations:

• Janus
• Eulenspiegel (TES)
• Samois
• Black Rose
• People Exchanging Power (PEP)

Sources:

• Society Of Janus: 25 Years (T. Weymouth)
• Pervert: Notes from the Sexual Underground (Nancy Ava Miller)
• Cynthia Slater and the Catholic Priest (Jack Fritscher)
• https://www.tes.org/