For over 20 years Pat has traveled the world to work with companies, organizations, and industries to unlock the profit of laughter, levity, and joy in their work cultures. From daily stakeholder to internal interactions he has worked to harness their untapped strengths to allow them to make positive and lasting development.

Pat returns to the podcast to have a chat with David about the world, how the pandemic has affected his life, and his upcoming RV adventures with his family!