What if the truest test of your leadership wasn't how you showed up in the easy moments, but how you showed up when everything was hard? Let's be honest: it's easy to lead when the path is smooth and everyone's happy. But what about when uncertainty creeps in, when tough conversations loom, or when the stakes feel heavy and your team is counting on you to step forward? It's in those gritty, muddy moments that real courage begins to take root.

In this episode, I'm joined by Anne Moser—an inspiring leader who's built her legacy not just by solving problems, but by continuing to connect deeply, even when things got uncomfortable. Together, we'll dig into the overlooked moments when leadership moves from concept to practice: how to build trust under pressure, why showing up in-person matters (even when it's awkward!), and what it takes to create the kind of psychological safety that lets everyone step into courage.

This is a conversation about humanity at work, about being honest and intentional, and about those everyday, unsung acts of courage that build connection, loyalty, and trust.

Highlights

(00:00) Why the Everyday Act of Showing Up Sets Great Leaders Apart

(03:45) How to Build Trust and Create Stronger Work Relationships During Difficult Situations

(06:19) How Anne Turned A Client Crisis into Unbreakable Loyalty

(07:30) Are You Building Surface-Level Relationships or Real Trust?

(08:33) How Anne's Pause-and-Plan Strategy Changed the Outcome of a Tough Situation

(11:38) How to Keep Emotion Out of Challenging Conversations

(15:15) What If Your Best Effort Still Doesn't Win Them Over?

(24:07) The Right Mindset to Approach a Difficult Conversation

Connect with Anne Moser on LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-moser-24a9576/

About Andrea Butcher

Andrea Butcher is a visionary business leader, executive coach, and keynote speaker—she empowers leaders to gain clarity through the chaos by being MORE of who they already are. Her experiences—serving as CEO, leading at an executive level, and working in and leading global teams—make her uniquely qualified to support leadership and business success. She hosts the popular leadership podcast, Being [at Work] with a global audience of over 600,000 listeners and is the author of The Power in the Pivot (Red Thread Publishing 2022) and HR Kit for Dummies (Wiley 2023).

Connect with Andrea

https://www.abundantempowerment.com/

Connect with Andrea Butcher on LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/leaderdevelopmentcoach/