Chris Spangle and Greg Lenz are joined by the ultimate establishment member, Abdul-Hakim Shabazz. The Indiana-based commentator and reporter of IndyPolitics.org, as well as Spangle's former mentor, explains if Mike Pence would be a good President. We also touch on the Comey firings and ask the establishment if the Libertarian Party should exist.

Special Guest: Abdul Hakim-Shabazz.

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