Haley Berkoe talks with Matthew Pines, Executive Director of the Bitcoin Policy Institute, about bitcoin’s growing role in U.S. policy. They cover building a bitcoin community in DC, how policymakers are treating bitcoin as a strategic asset, the risks of quantum computing and AI, and why this moment feels like one of “high agency and high leverage” for bitcoiners.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Introduction to Matt Pines and his path into bitcoin

02:10 The bitcoin scene in Washington DC

03:47 Shifting policy conversations and bitcoin as a strategic asset

05:12 Advice for bitcoiners engaging policymakers

07:06 What a bitcoin standard world could look like

09:08 Quantum computing risks and government response

13:18 Book recommendation: Global Discord by Paul Tucker

15:09 The intersection of bitcoin and AI

18:02 Dream bitcoin projects still missing in the market

19:42 Spicy take: China vs. U.S. bitcoin holdings

20:30 Optimism for bitcoin’s future and ETF adoption

23:24 Final takeaway: the power of agency

25:27 How to follow Matt and the Bitcoin Policy Institute

FOLLOW:

Matthew Pines: https://x.com/matthew_pines

Bitcoin Policy Institute: https://x.com/btcpolicyorg

Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe

Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin

LINKS:

Insights from the Quantum Bitcoin Summit https://presidiobitcoin.substack.com/p/insights-from-the-quantum-bitcoin

Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin

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