Episode 21 features a conversation between Pastor Clay and Johnson Ferry Member Susan Goodwin about the foundational importance of studying the Torah (the first five books of the Bible) for understanding the entire Bible and Jesus. They then discuss Romans 8:1-11, focusing on the freedom from condemnation believers have through the Holy Spirit. Susan highlights the contrast between the life-giving Spirit and the deathly flesh, emphasizing that God's work brings this transformation. They discuss practically setting our minds on the Spirit through God's Word and Christian community. The conversation underscores the power and personhood of the Holy Spirit in enabling believers to overcome sin and live transformed lives. In application, Susan encourages resting in God's forgiveness and carefully guarding our minds. Pastor Clay concludes by stressing the crucial role of Christian community in studying God's Word and fostering spiritual growth.

Dr. Clay Smith is the senior pastor of Johnson Ferry Baptist Church, located just north of Atlanta, GA. JF, as it is affectionately called, is a healthy, vibrant church committed to helping people find truth, belonging, and purpose in Jesus.