Isis and Chae interview Nicole Deggins, who is one of the leading birth advocacy experts in the US. Nicole, a NOLA native, is a sought-after public speaker and community educator who works to eliminate perinatal disparities. Nicole knows hospital birth extensively and was a labor and delivery nurse before becoming a nurse midwife. Through Sista Midwife Productions, Nicole provides full-spectrum training to doulas hoping to help improve birth outcomes especially for Black birthing people.