In this episode Ben chats with David van Noy, aka DVN, of Van Noy Real Estate, a residential real estate business based out of Kansas City.

David discusses:

- the idea of his role as a "dragon slayer" with the need to protect his family from the ups and downs of said slaying

- how problems are often caused by people thinking they are "owed" something by anyone else

- why he believes he always has to be "the best employee the company has"

You’ll find more about DVN and others on www.untrapped.com