"We know that a very real and persistent anti-blackness exists within the US as a construct."

Alfonso + Trina welcome Senior Strategist Pearl Dobbins to the podcast. Pearl shares her experience + learnings on colorism in the United States + its colonies. Trina talks about the way a preference for whiteness encourages a preference for lightness + how that shows up in media.

In this episode, Pearl references Resmaa Menakem + Dr. Yaba Blay as well as many other writers + activists.