Geepaw (Michael Hill) story started like no other, with the tale of his firing. He told us how he began as a computer salesman and got interested in programming and the Forth programming language. We briefly discussed being independent before talking more and more about the state of our industry. We spoke about joy being mandatory for the team's success. We discussed methods and how they won't solve a thing if joy isn't present, not even Extreme Programming. We finally talked about motivators, Geepaw adding "Rythm" and "Safety" to the well-known "Autonomy, Master and Purpose" of Daniel pink.

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• https://www.twitter.com/GeePawHill
• https://www.geepawhill.org

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• Cover Heliotrope by Blue Dot Sessions is licensed CC BY-NC-ND 4.0.
• Your host is Timothée (Tim) Bourguignon, more about him at timbourguignon.fr.
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