Charlie and David turn 5 years old! We are astonished, and we discuss how we celebrated in these strange times. We also talk a bit about childcare and how it’s evolving. And don’t worry: there are some mentions of puke, nightmares, and wanting to dropkick our two-year-olds.

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Music: Hanami by Fabian Measures