We're stepping into contested territory, and we'd love for you to come with us.

In this episode, Trevor and Ryan have a conversation around the Bible's view of the nation of Israel after Jesus dies, rises from the grave, and institutes the church. They talk about defining fundamentalism in a helpful way, the history of Israelite and Palestinian occupation of that land, whether or not the modern state of Israel is similar to ancient Israel in God's eyes, and how the New Testament talks about God's covenantal relationship to Israel. It's a dense episode, and we totally understand if you walk away disagreeing with us. Either way, let us know in the comments what you learned, fact-checked us on, or found interesting!

**As noted at 33:03, the Scofield Reference Bible claims in the study notes that the Sermon on the Mount that Jesus gives in Matthew 5-7 is ONLY for Jews, rejected by the Jews, and then later meant for the Kingdom of Heaven when God comes back to set all things right. He claims that it is not for Christians.

“For these reasons the Sermon on the Mount in its primary application gives neither the privilege nor the duty of the Church. These are found in the Epistles.” - Scofield Reference Bible notes, Matthew 5:2, Page 1000.

https://archive.org/details/scofieldreferenc00unse/page/1000/mode/2up?view=theater