In this week's episode we talk to Cesar Madera, another local magician. An avid lover of magic and magicians, Cesar shares his stories of collaborating with a well-known magician to propose to his (now) fiance & a recent magic show he attended in New York, performed by his magic idol, Dan White. 

 

In between story-telling, we compare Cesar's and Logan's magic styles, old & new world magic, and our individual definitions of magic in the universe. Tune in for lots of laughs, some free-flowing discussion, and maybe even a magic trick!