"That's a big theme in this series: don't try to pull yourself out of depression by thinking, 'Oh, you have to help yourself, you have to love yourself.' No. When you're depressed, that power is dead, but you might still have the power to rouse yourself to do something if you're going to protect somebody you care about, and that is a greater power." - Ep. 2.2

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