This week, we talk to true renaissance man Satchell Drakes, who you may know from the Forbes podcast “Overworld,” or his work in the group “Big Bad Bosses,” or maybe you’re just overly familiar with the nice, wholesome people of the world! We talk about falling away from religion (Satchell is a seminary dropout!), celebrities we hope don’t get canceled, a kink we’re almost positive you’ve never heard of, and so much more! Join us, won’t you?