PSA: there are now at least two Emily's hosting this podcast following her details being leaked in the Optus data breach and probable identity theft. Even more insane is that Em never had a device with Optus - tune in for that rant.

Jules and Em (or the now many Ems) also chat about riding the highs and lows of mental health, happily existing in the middle ground and working to manage our fluctuations, rather than exacerbate them. Jules also touches on some of the lows she's been tackling, her mistakes, lessons and how she has come out on top.

Protect your identity and your mental health x