This week we're talking with esteemed journalist and author Charles M. Blow. Charles is a longtime New York Times Op-Ed columnist and is author of the award-winning memoir, Fire Shut Up In My Bones. Charles' new book, The Devil You Know: A Black Power Manifesto, is a thrilling call to action for Black communities to consider an alternate future of true equality. Listen to Charles talk with Danielle and Maiysha about how a return to the south by Black people could fuel real and lasting positive change.

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