“When we’re defending something there is likely something worth defending. But likely not at the scale or with the volume or with the intensity that we want to defend.”

Trina + Alfonso dive into the ways some folks equate antiracist with a loss of something they value. They talk about the ways the term 'antiracist' is being used and who is using it. And they discuss how part of anti-racism work is about decreasing our obsession with control of other people and of resources. 

Plus, Alfonso talks about the interaction of non-violence and anti-racism

Ibram Kendi article - The Mantra of White Supremacy