Web3 with Sam Kamani

224: Merging Bitcoin & Ethereum—Jerry from Apex Fusion on Building a Scalable L1


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In this episode ofWeb3 with Sam Kamani, I chat withJerry from Apex Fusion about their ambitious goal ofbuilding a next-gen Layer 1 blockchain that merges the best of Bitcoin & Ethereum.

🔥What makes Apex Fusion unique?

🔹 Atri-chain architecture combining security, speed & scalability

🔹Native liquid staking without the need for LSTs🔹A modular framework integrating both UTXO & EVM ecosystems

🔹Solving blockchain fragmentation by bridging major networks

🔹Regulatory clarity & the changing U.S. crypto landscape

If you're into Layer 1s, modular blockchains, or the future of Web3 infrastructure, this episode is a must-listen!


Key Timestamps

[00:00:00]Introduction: Sam introduces Jerry & the vision behind Apex Fusion.

[00:01:00]Jerry’s Background & Journey into Web3

  • Fromtraditional tech (Dell, CSC) to Cardano & blockchain

  • Howreading the Bitcoin & Ethereum whitepapers changed his perspective

  • WhyFidelity’s early Bitcoin adoption convinced him to go all in on crypto

[00:03:00]The Problem Apex Fusion is Solving

  • Thetwo major blockchain ecosystems: Bitcoin (UTXO) vs Ethereum (EVM)

  • Why interoperability between them is crucial for Web3’s future

  • Thechallenges of tribalism in crypto & the need for collaboration

[00:07:00]The Apex Fusion Tri-Chain Architecture🔹Prime: A puresettlement layer based on UTXO & Cardano’s tech🔹Nexus: AnEVM-compatible execution layer using Polygon Edge🔹Vector: AUTXO-based smart contract layer using Plutus & Haskell

  • Why splitting security, execution & scalability across different chains makes sense

[00:14:00]Solving the Blockchain Trilemma

  • Prime = Maximumsecurity & decentralization

  • Nexus & Vector = High-speedexecution & scalability

  • A neutral L1 that doesn’t compete with L2s

[00:17:00]Why Apex Fusion Has Native Liquid Staking

  • Unlike Ethereum,staking doesn’t require locking tokens

  • No need for liquid staking derivatives (LSTs)

  • More decentralized & capital-efficient staking model

[00:22:00]How Open-Source Innovation Drives Web3

  • Apex Fusion is inspired by both Satoshi & Vitalik’s vision

  • Encouraging builders to improve on existing blockchain architectures

  • The difference between Web2 & Web3 ecosystems

[00:27:00]Why This Cycle is Focused on Meme Coins Instead of Utility

  • How the rise of Solana & meme coins has created too much noise

  • Why real-world utility will ultimately win in the long run

  • Regulatory clarity in the U.S. & the impact on real Web3 adoption

[00:32:00]The Future of Crypto Regulation & U.S. Onshoring

  • Why many U.S. founders left & are now looking to return

  • The importance of clear regulation for Web3’s future

  • How Apex Fusion structured itself for compliance from day one

[00:38:00]Apex Fusion’s Roadmap

  • Prime mainnet launch in Feb-March 2024

  • Scaling through developers, partnerships & testnet adoption

  • Upcoming release of Nexus, Vector & the Router Bridge

[00:42:00]How Apex Fusion is Funded & Plans for Growth

  • $6M raised from strategic investors & TRGC VC

  • Why they avoided excessive VC influence & focused on fair launch

  • Opportunities for partnerships with value-added investors

[00:45:00]Final Thoughts & Call to Action

  • Apex Fusion is looking for validators (SPOs), devs & early builders

  • Reputation system live—earn rewards by contributing to testnet

  • Follow Apex Fusion for updates on the mainnet launch


Connect

https://apexfusion.org/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/apexfusioncore/

https://x.com/ApexFusion

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerryfragiskatos/

https://x.com/Aces1974


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