23: How leaders can go from ‘burnout busy’ to ‘balance busy’ - Rosalyn Palmer

In this podcast, Transformational Wellbeing Coach, Rosalyn Palmer, shares her expert advice to help those leaders who are feeling burned out, establish some balance in their busy working lives.

You can read the full transcript here: https://social.hays.com/2020/12/01/podcast-23-how-leaders-can-go-from-burnout-busy-to-balance-busy/

Related content:

• Are you suffering from career burnout? It’s time to make a change: https://social.hays.com/2015/09/02/8433/

• Podcast 21: How leaders can champion self-care, reflection, and awareness: https://social.hays.com/2020/10/26/podcast-21-how-leaders-can-champion-self-care-reflection-and-awareness/

• The employee burnout conundrum: https://social.hays.com/2017/10/26/employee-burnout-conundrum/

• Why you need to stop being so busy, now: https://social.hays.com/2019/08/19/stop-being-so-busy/

Timestamps:

(01:05) Please could you introduce yourself to our listeners?

(02:20) Why is burnout a topic you're particularly passionate about?

(04:44) Could you define what we mean by the term burnout and maybe expand upon the common signs that someone may be burnt out?

(09:08) Do you think that for some being busy is almost a badge of honour? That if they're seen to be busy, then they will automatically be seen as valuable, and do you think that this might be even truer as we've progressed through the pandemic?

(11:52) So how can leaders establish a balanced level of busy-ness?

(13:06) And do you think that effective delegation is a key part of this?

(14:54) Now, do you think imposter syndrome is playing a part in some leaders feeling that they need to be seen to be busy in order to prove their value to themselves and to others. And how might this be contributing to burnout?

(20:16) We've already discussed how busy these times are for business leaders. So, how can they take time out of their schedules to look after their mental health? And why do you think this is important?

(23:44) Now on the topic of mental health, in recent years something I've noticed is that the stigma around talking about mental health seems to be decreasing. How can leaders display vulnerability and open up to their team members if they are feeling burnt out or too busy. And what do you think are the benefits of doing so?

(27:44) And what about self-awareness and self-reflection, what would you say are the benefits of these? Do you have any practical tips for our listeners to help them weave this into their daily routines amongst their busy schedules?

(31:01) Now, as many of us continue to work remotely or in a hybrid way, some are finding it hard to distinguish between their work and personal lives. How do you think this is fuelling the risk of burnout in leaders in particular?

(37:20) What are the signs that leaders can look out for to spot burnout within their teams? Presumably this is far more difficult for leaders to notice in this increasingly remote and hybrid working world.

(39:35) And if leaders do recognise these signs of burnout within their teams? How should they go about addressing them?

(41:31) And building on this a little more. How can leaders incentivise as well as role model healthy behaviours to ensure that teams are also able to establish a good balance? And do you think this is becoming even more important in this new era of work?

(44:44) And what impact will these kinds of behaviours have not only on the wellbeing, but also on the output of teams?

(47:31) I have one more question, and this is a question we ask all our podcast guests, what do you think are the three qualities that make a good leader? And do you think these qualities have changed since the beginning of the pandemic?