Katherine Deves tried to make transgender athletes an election issue. She swiftly found out her electorate was on a different wave to her.

But now FINA, the world swimming body, has made a ruling banning transgender women from competing in women's events.

Why is this suddenly such a big talking point? And what are the scientific experts and the athletes saying about the topic? 

Flash head of editorial James Law and news.com.au deputy editor Liz Burke dive into the topic to find out what people are saying.

Also, how woke is too woke? The pair discuss Greens leader Adam Bandt's removal of an Australian flag at a press conference, Tom Hanks' admission that he wouldn't play a gay actor in Philadelphia in 2022, and Emma Thompson copping heat for wearing a fat suit to play Miss Trunchbull.

And of course, it's Logies week. It's time to talk about Hamish Blake, the rest of the winers, and Toadie's outburst about the cancellation of Neighbours.

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