Emmy-winning director and puppeteer Noel MacNeal joins me to talk about a shelf with lessons about finding calm and motivation in what's around us, and simply 'being there' in each moment. Along the way we also talk about embracing your surroundings, how life can bring new meaning to music and songs and how Doctor Who can provide one of the toughest workouts.

You can find more from Noel on Instagram and Bluesky.

Quotes:

• "You haven't failed if you've tried"
• "It's only a problem if you make it a problem"
• "A man can think too much"

Podcast artwork - Lily Fossett

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