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On today's episode, Matt & Des interview their great friend Joe Poni for part one of the live recordings at this year's RISE conference at the Mission Church in Vacaville, Ca. as part of the Breakthrough Sessions. Enjoy these powerful testimonies!

P.S. don't forget to join us next week for part two! 

Quick Episode Summary:

• Live at RISE 2019
• Meet Joe
• Having a discipleship mentality
• Religious roadblocks
• Why you shouldn't pressure passion
• Joe's heart for entrepreneurs
• Final thoughts from Joe