Diplomacy and Discourse Podcast

#23 Pt. 1 - Islam, China, and the West: Clash, Convergence, or Coexistence?


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In Part 1 of this two to three-part series, host A.R. unpacks Samuel P. Huntington’s Clash of Civilizations and tests it against the world we actually live in.

What we cover:

  • The theory: Huntington’s civilizational blocs and “fault lines”
  • The critique: simplifications, identity flattening, and “us vs. them”
  • Real-world flashpoints: U.S.–China rivalry, Russia’s war in Ukraine, Gaza (2023–25), Taliban rule in Afghanistan, EU migration politics
  • Paradoxes of power: U.S.–Saudi alignment, China brokering a Saudi–Iran détente, BRICS expansion
  • Globalization’s countercurrent: interdependence, soft power, and transnational networks
  • Alternative lenses:
    • Francis Fukuyama: liberal convergence (End of History)
    • Edward Said: critique of civilizational framing (Orientalism)
    • Amartya Sen: overlapping identities (Identity and Violence)
    • John Mearsheimer: realism and power over culture
    • Joseph Nye: soft power, networks, and attraction
  • 2025 outlook: slower U.S. growth, multipolar competition, and where civilizational narratives help—or mislead

Key takeaways:

  • Identity matters, but power politics, resources, and institutions matter too.
  • “Clash” narratives can become political tools.
  • The future looks less like a single civilizational conflict and more like a messy, multipolar contest with moments of cooperation.
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