What initially appears as failure, can often be the catalysts to our greatest discoveries. Josh Steimle had an apparent failure — in 2013, he was nearly out of business. A bad hire at his marketing agency had brought him to the brink of bankruptcy.

Fast-forward to the present, and his agency (MWi) is thriving, he started a second business (Influencer Inc.), and he’s now publishing a book called The 7 Systems of Influence, to show others how they can copy his successes (and avoid his failures).

We invited Josh on the Lead to Grow podcast to share the premise for his new book, and what he’s learned about leveraging your skillset to influence others.