We're doing it again! We both take up opposite positions on the spectrum between shapeshifting and skinwalking. Which is best? Which one of us has the most convincing arguments? Which one of us folds first? And which one of us gets distracted first and talks about lamp posts, LEGO, symmetrical pizzas and company meetings? Spoiler for that last bit; both of us!

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Chapters

00:00 - Hello

00:25 - Introduction

05:11 - Shapeshifters vs. Skinwalkers

18:13 - Listener Email From Ulrich

20:54 - Outroduction

21:11 - Goodbye

Credits

Episode Art: Wolf Moon Tree by Petra

Theme Music: Over 100 Jaar by Klein Orkest

Almost Everything Else: Simon & Dirk