Caitlin opens the show talking about the latest with nighttime shenanigans of various kinds by her two boys and so is tiiiiired. We talk about how therapy is helpful but also nothing is solved overnight by it. Caitlin asks for Laura’s perspective on asking for please and thank you from our children, and the role of modeling in learning gratitude and humility. Laura also tells a hilarious accidental text story related to saying thanks.

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Music: Hanami by Fabian Measures