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24 | Cathy O'Neil, Algorithm Auditor, Author of WMathD


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Podcast: The Performance Audit Report
Episode: 24 | Cathy O'Neil, Algorithm Auditor, Author of WMathD
Pub date: 2023-02-28

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Our guest is Cathy O'Neil, author of Weapons of Math Destruction: how big data increases inequality and threatens democracy.

Cathy joined us to discuss critical aspects for auditors to consider, including:

  • The human element: why understanding 'for whom an algorithm might fail' is more important than the detailed technical design of an algorithm.
  • Algorithm testing: the importance of post-deployment testing to ensure there are no unintended adverse outcomes. 
  • Setting standards: the need for industry-wide standards so that regulators can ensure there is no bias or discrimination in how algorithms operate. 
  • Laggers and leaders: the four big industries/domains using algorithms that need to step up audit in their space and how law-makers and regulators are catching up.
  • Emerging AI, e.g. language models/chatbots - why trust by users is key, and the pros and cons of using these models.

Links

  • Cathy's company, ORCAA 
  • Weapons of Math Destruction (book)  
  • This episode's web page: https://pareports.com/podcast/24 


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Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by PA Reports - Performance Audit Research

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