For the kick off to Season Two of Rules of the Game, we have Part 2 of Butch Porter's conversation with Muoki Musau (of the "Growing Pains" podcast) on the topic of masculinity. We take a slightly different tack, whereas we decide to watch "Die Hard" (your host's favorite Christmas movie) and talk about the characters there to discover what we mean when we say things like "The Patriarchy"...and "toxic masculinity" etc...

Muoki's Rule for Part 2 is: "If you say 'awoman,' then you don't know what 'amen' means."

For more from Muoki, check out the "Growing Pains" podcast here:

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