Our first ever returning guest! Jason Avery drops by to talk to us about a new spiritual direction he wants to go with his art, teaching himself sculpting, what Warhol would do with social media, and slowing down. We then switch gears and talk about galleries vs. Instagram to gain collectors, the value we put on our own art, and then we get into a good debate about technique vs. idea in art, and artists creating their own visual language. Please rate and review us on iTunes if you enjoy this episode!