Tommy and Dusty discuss their awareness and defensiveness about trying to raise children. Tommy bought an Apple Watch. Dusty had a spat with his wife. They both share lessons from recent, corporate emotional training given to them by Ph.D.'s and authors, including Brene Brown, Dr. Robert Kegan, and Emily and Amelia Nagoski.

Find Ourselves QoW: "What have I been sensitive to lately?"

Tommy's Recommendation: Made for Love on HBO Max

Dusty's Recommendation: Caste: The Origins of our Discontents by Isabel Wilkerson

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