In this episode Erica interviews Heather Green, an author and intuitive healer about the spiritual elements of conservation, and human-animal relationships. Heather earned a bachelors degree in Nursing from Clarke College and went onto pursue a masters degree in Counseling Psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute. She spent thirteen years working as a registered nurse and several years as a counselor before transitioning into her current role. She elaborates on why spirituality plays an important role in conservation and what she thinks we can learn from the whales. (Correction: Erica meant to say Noah's Arc not Joan of Arc)