We explore the life of Frederick Douglass and his famous speech, "What to the Slave is the 4th of July?" with Public Historian and Founder of History Alive, John W McCaskill.

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Our theme music is provided by Julian Reid and his ensemble group, The JuJu Exchange. We have a link to their music in the show notes.