Today Cody and Jeremy welcome the power couple of the hard cider industry to the pod; Denise and Ken from White Crow Cider in Wichita!  Is it beer?  Is it wine?  Does the U.S. government have some fucked up tax rules (spoiler: yes)?  Is cider the stepchild of craft beer?  In this episode we answer these age-old questions and many many more.  Plus a cameo appearance from none other than Tone-Loc.