- With coronavirus restrictions easing across Australia, we argue that the aim should not be to return to normal, but rather to create a different society that addresses the inequalities and hardships that existed well before the pandemic.- We also discuss US politics and make a similar case against going back to normal post-Trump, highlighting the need to tackle ongoing problems with health care, the environment and class inequality.- For more information on this episode and for links to all of the stories and clips from it, go to: https://progressivepodcastaustralia.com/2020/05/11/246/