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Coach Doug Butler is one of the most successful high school coaches in the country. His teams have won 18 state titles in cross country and 6 in track and field. He too was a standout runner throughout the 80s and 90s with personal bests under 1:07 for the half marathon and under 2:26 for the full. He talked at length about training and motivating others while driving a van full of kids back from practice!
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