In episode 25, Kysmet rejoins me on the podcast. We get into that October spirit talking about horror movies and psychological thrillers, including some talk about actual psychopaths and the stigmatization of mental illness in the wake of some of the horrible acts of violence in the United States. It's not all heavy, though: we talk about Harrison Ford in his peak-hotness Indiana Jones days and the gateway shows that helped us figure out our kinky selves. We also discuss the trouble with being a young kinkster trying to learn about BDSM. Show notes on EliaWinters.com within 48 hours of posting.