Hey art lovers! This week we have the famous Gene on for an interview, Sophie's grad school husband.

This was a big recording session and chat so we're uploading the episode in two parts so you can hear in depth about Gene's work. Our time toegher earning our photo MFAs and some invaluable advice from Gene about how artists can operate their practices as a business in order to be protected in the contemporary art world.

You can find Gene's artworks at genetolan.com

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