In this episode of the Coder Kids Podcast, James and Jeff interview Jeff Gobel, the most experienced coder on the program yet with over 40 years of coding experience!

Jeff has worked at Apple, Amazon, startups, has retired, and then rejoined the workforce. Listen in with us, and find out why YNAB is his "happy place."

If you'd like to get in contact with Jeff Gobel you can email him at

[email protected]

If you'd like to learn more about YNAB you can do so here

https://www.youneedabudget.com/

Also, you can listen to YNAB's Podcast Here

https://www.youneedabudget.com/podcasts/