In this 25th Episode of Chris Dyer's Podcast show, he interviews his artist friend Ashley Spero!  Spero (spero_art) is a visionary artist based in Asheville, North Carolina.  
They talk about Chris' family Quilmanà artist retreat, her art, channeling art and spirits from other dimensions, healing people with paintings, the difference between insects and cell phones, psychic abilities, alien tribes, painting on wood, painting with markers, art school, Asheville and the Blue Ridge Mountains, working with teas and herbs, plant medicine and guides, tearing down the Patriarchy, feminine energy to heal society, diving deep into experiences for paintings, abuses by Herbert Quinteros, abusing power, female power revival, the Visionary Muses, painting portraits, using art to raise up other humans, Chris' failings in dealing with Herbert's abuses, how men can learn from Chris, artists of Asheville, NC.