This is a milestone episode of Get Out of Wrap – and a meaningful one.

For episode 250, I’m joined by Niki Ignatiou and Julia Rosell Jackson from ActionAid, an international charity working alongside women, girls and communities to tackle injustice at its roots.

In this conversation we explore:

• How ActionAid works differently by putting communities in the lead

• Why adolescent girls are often invisible – and how they’re changing that

• Real examples of girls influencing policy, education and social norms

• The role of women’s movements in humanitarian crises and conflict

• Why lasting change doesn’t come from systems imposed on people

This episode is about justice, dignity, resilience – and listening to the people closest to the problem.

If you care about leadership, humanity and impact, this one’s worth your time.

You can support Action Aid at https://www.actionaid.org.uk/get-involved

You can also donate for my London Marathon run raising money for Action Aid at

https://www.justgiving.com/page/runwithmart?utm_medium=FR&utm_source=CL