<div>In this episode Martin Couzins and Dr Nigel Paine discuss David James' L&D <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7348696507165892608/?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7348696507165892608%2C7349009541860061185%29&dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd%5Fcomment%3A%287349009541860061185%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7348696507165892608%29&replyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7348696507165892608%2C7360755523882754048%29&dashReplyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd%5Fcomment%3A%287360755523882754048%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7348696507165892608%29&midToken=AQE06sx31G0o5w&midSig=1-99fzRtITjHU1&trk=eml-email_notification_single_also_commented_on_this_01-hero_notification_cta-0-1ep~cta&trkEmail=eml-email_notification_single_also_commented_on_this_01-hero_notification_cta-0-1ep~cta-null-4gxxt~me7ksbzh~e3-null-null&eid=4gxxt-me7ksbzh-e3&otpToken=MTUwMDFlZTgxYjJhY2NjZWI1MjkwMGVlNGYxYWUzYjM4YmNkZDQ0MTkxYTQ4YjZkNzFjNDA0NmQ0YzViNTVmOTkxODlkNGJjNjNjN2UyYzdlNDIyOTkwYzgxZGExMmJkNzhiMzRkNDg2NWY2MTllZSwxLDE%3D">maturity model</a>, the Towards Maturity maturity model and why nothing seems to change in L&D.</div>

In this episode Martin Couzins and Dr Nigel Paine discuss David James' L&D maturity model, the Towards Maturity maturity model and why nothing seems to change in L&D.

In this episode Martin Couzins and Dr Nigel Paine discuss David James' L&amp;D <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7348696507165892608/?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7348696507165892608%2C7349009541860061185%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd%5Fcomment%3A%287349009541860061185%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7348696507165892608%29&amp;replyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7348696507165892608%2C7360755523882754048%29&amp;dashReplyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd%5Fcomment%3A%287360755523882754048%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7348696507165892608%29&amp;midToken=AQE06sx31G0o5w&amp;midSig=1-99fzRtITjHU1&amp;trk=eml-email_notification_single_also_commented_on_this_01-hero_notification_cta-0-1ep~cta&amp;trkEmail=eml-email_notification_single_also_commented_on_this_01-hero_notification_cta-0-1ep~cta-null-4gxxt~me7ksbzh~e3-null-null&amp;eid=4gxxt-me7ksbzh-e3&amp;otpToken=MTUwMDFlZTgxYjJhY2NjZWI1MjkwMGVlNGYxYWUzYjM4YmNkZDQ0MTkxYTQ4YjZkNzFjNDA0NmQ0YzViNTVmOTkxODlkNGJjNjNjN2UyYzdlNDIyOTkwYzgxZGExMmJkNzhiMzRkNDg2NWY2MTllZSwxLDE%3D" rel="noopener noreferrer">maturity model</a>, the Towards Maturity maturity model and why nothing seems to change in L&amp;D.

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<p>Nigel is a former chief learning officer and now teaches, consults and writes books on leadership, learning and people development. Martin is a journalist, editor, curator and publisher.</p>

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Nigel is a former chief learning officer and now teaches, consults and writes books on leadership, learning and people development. Martin is a journalist, editor, curator and publisher.

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