The XS Noize Podcast

#253. White Lies: Inside the Sonic Freedom and Creative Telepathy of "Night Light"


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In this episode of the XS Noize Podcast, Mark Millar is joined by Charles Cave and Jack Lawrence-Brown from White Lies to discuss their electrifying seventh album "Night Light". This bold, live-driven reinvention captures the band at their most instinctive and free-flowing.

Recorded live in the room for the first time, Night Light sees White Lies embracing spontaneity and creative risk — from the motorik rush of "Nothing On Me" and the 70s-inspired swagger of "Going Nowhere", to the sweeping ambition of "All The Best" and the hypnotic finale "In The Middle."

Charles and Jack take us inside the fearless process behind the record — how rehearsing and performing songs before recording transformed the sound, how the influence of The Midnight Special inspired their approach, and how working with longtime collaborator Seth Evans unlocked a new sense of chemistry and space within the band.

They also reflect on 16 years of White Lies — from their debut To Lose My Life… to the creative confidence of Night Light — exploring what keeps their partnership strong, how they've continued to evolve, and the joy of still finding new ground to explore together.

"This record felt like freedom — the sound of a band who finally know exactly who they are." — Charles Cave "It's amazing what happens when you stop chasing perfection and just play." — Jack Lawrence-Brown

White Lies' seventh album "Night Light" arrives November 7 via Play It Again Sam — a bold new chapter in the band's sixteen-year journey.

About The XS Noize Podcast

With over 250 episodes to its name, the XS Noize Podcast has become a trusted home for music's legends and trailblazers — a space where real conversations meet real stories. Hosted by Mark Millar, the show has welcomed an extraordinary lineup including Miles Kane, Matt Berninger, Saint Etienne, D:Ream, Gavin Rossdale, The Farm, Snow Patrol, John Lydon, Will Sergeant, Ocean Colour Scene, Gary Kemp, Doves, Gavin Friday, David Gray, Anton Newcombe, Peter Hook, Razorlight, Sananda Maitreya, James, Crowded House, Elbow, Cast, Kula Shaker, Shed Seven, Future Islands, Peter Frampton, Bernard Butler, Steven Wilson, Travis, New Order, The Killers, Tito Jackson, Simple Minds, The Divine Comedy, Shaun Ryder, Gary Numan, Sleaford Mods, and Michael Head — among many more.

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